Removing "Experimental" from the Otter's callsign.

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h3pilot
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Removing "Experimental" from the Otter's callsign.

Post by h3pilot » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:55 pm

How do I remove "Experimental" from the Otter's radio callsigns?

With other aircraft, I have been able to edit the atc_id= entry in the aircraft.cfg (also the atc_airline and atc_flight_number entries), in order to make the radio calls match the aircraft's livery.

I attempted to modify the entries for the various Otters (Base, Amphib, Ski, Floats), but with the exception of a couple, the radio continues to say "Experimental".

For instance, I set the RCAF Otter variants to:
atc_airline=Air Force
atc_flight_number=685 (number on the plane)
atc_id=SAR (unchanged from original)

The resulting radios calls for the RCAF Amphibian and Ski versions are the desired "Air Force Six Eight Five".
Unfortunately, the Base version still gets called "Experimental Sierra Alpha Romeo".

The "Air Force" also works for the RNoAF Ski and Float versions, but its Base version won't change from "Experimental".
All of the other Otter liveries and variants are referred to as "Experimental" plus the atc_id number, regardless of atc_airline or flight number entries.

azflyboy
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Re: Removing "Experimental" from the Otter's callsign.

Post by azflyboy » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:15 pm

I believe that's caused by entries in the [GENERAL] section of the aircraft.cfg either being missing or in a format the sim doesn't understand. In the general section there should be entries for
atc_type=
atc_model=

Those entries control what type and model ATC calls the airplane, so if you add/change them to read
atc_type=DEHAVILLAND
atc_model=DHC2

That should get it recognized as "DeHevilland Beaver" by ATC.


Someone complied a list of all the recognized callsigns, types and models for FS2004, (I couldn't find a similar list for P3d, but I'd assume it's almost the same), so that might come in handy for other aircraft you need to re-name.

https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthre ... and-Models

h3pilot
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Re: Removing "Experimental" from the Otter's callsign.

Post by h3pilot » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:28 am

Thanks for the info and the link to the recognized list @azflyboy. :)

However, this is still driving me crazy!

With the original aircraft.cfg, the ATC call for the RCAF Otter says "Experimental Sierra Alpha Romeo"
I wanted to correct the callsign, so I added the two entries in red to the original aircraft.cfg, but the spoken call did NOT change.

[fltsim.3]
title=Milviz DHC3 Base RCAF
sim=Otter
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=RCAF
kb_checklists=
kb_reference=
atc_airline=Air Force
atc_flight_number=685
atc_id=SAR
atc_parking_types=RAMP
ui_createdby="MilViz"
ui_typerole="Single Engine Prop"
ui_manufacturer="De Havilland Canada"
ui_type="DHC3"
ui_variation="Base Version RCAF"
description="DHC-3.RCAF Repaint done by Skyhawk18."
visual_damage=0

[General]
Category=airplane


With the following additions to the [General] section, ATC says "DeHavilland Sierra Alpha Romeo".
(Slightly better than "experimental", but not what I want it to be.)

[General]
Category=airplane
atc_type=DEHAVILLAND
atc_model=DHC3 Otter




I added the same lines to the Amphibian model's aircraft.cfg and it works as expected.
ATC says "Air Force six eight five", exactly what I want.

[fltsim.2]
title=Milviz DHC3 Amphib Floats RCAF
sim=Otter
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=RCAF_SF
kb_checklists=
kb_reference=
atc_airline=Air Force
atc_flight_number=685

atc_id=SAR
atc_parking_types=RAMP
ui_manufacturer="De Havilland Canada"
ui_type="DHC3"
ui_variation="RCAF"
ui_createdby="MilViz"
ui_typerole="Single Engine Prop"
description="DHC-3 Amphibian. Repaint done by Skyhawk18."
visual_damage=0

[General]
Category=airplane


*** or ***

[General]
Category=airplane

atc_type=DEHAVILLAND
atc_model=DHC3 Otter


*** Note the addition of atc_type= and atc_model= entries doesn't change anything.
Either way the atc_airline=Air Force entry is used and the call is "Air Force six eight five".


Why are the atc_airline=Air Force and atc_flight_number=685 entries being ignored on the Base model Otter?
I just want the Navy, Army, and Air Force liveries to have correct call signs.


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