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FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:30 am
by JonathanBleeker
Since so many KA FSUIPC users are running into issues, and will continue to run into issues after our MVAMS throttle calibration comes out, I am posting a little guideline on FSUIPC configuration:

In a nutshell, you need to make sure you are using the AXIS_THROTTLEX_SET events and not the THROTTLEX_SET events, and that the FSUIPC5.ini uses the "TO SIM" mode rather than "Direct" or any other mode. This is advisable on any high class addon that intercepts controls. Example below:
[Axes.Jet_2_Stick_T-38]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=3X,256,F,66388,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_RIGHT_BRAKE_SET }-
1=3Y,256,F,66387,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_LEFT_BRAKE_SET }-
2=3Z,256,F,65764,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_RUDDER_SET }-
3=4Z,256,F,65821,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: THROTTLE2_SET }-
4=4R,256,F,65820,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: THROTTLE1_SET }-
5=5X,256,F,65763,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_AILERONS_SET }-
6=5Y,256,F,65762,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_ELEVATOR_SET }-
[Axes.Jet_2_Stick_T-38]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=3X,256,F,66388,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_RIGHT_BRAKE_SET }-
1=3Y,256,F,66387,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_LEFT_BRAKE_SET }-
2=3Z,256,F,65764,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_RUDDER_SET }-
3=4Z,256,F,65821,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_THROTTLE2_SET }-
4=4R,256,F,65820,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_THROTTLE1_SET }-
5=5X,256,F,65763,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_AILERONS_SET }-
6=5Y,256,F,65762,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_ELEVATOR_SET }-

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:47 pm
by ega
Thanks for this information.

Just a question though: should the joystick be disabled in P3D?

Thanks
ega

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:08 pm
by Torkermax
Simply put, P3d, FS has no provision for throttle Beta.

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:30 pm
by don.polidori
I did this but no change for my issue. I can't control the two throttles separately and I have to assign one lever to control both (i.e., using "To Sim: Axis_Throttle_Set"). Will the new configuration tool address this or do I have a unique problem? --Don

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:21 pm
by JonathanBleeker
You have a unique problem. Make sure you don't have the same hardware axis assigned to both throttle axis events.

In summary, the upcoming tool is ONLY for defining beta/reverse zones etc. It is NOT an axis assignment tool and will not be such. Any issues with controlling levers separately are due to errors in your FSUIPC configuration and that is up to you to solve using the above as a guideline along with the FSUIPC manual.

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:50 pm
by iangrant1981
don.polidori wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:30 pm
I did this but no change for my issue. I can't control the two throttles separately and I have to assign one lever to control both (i.e., using "To Sim: Axis_Throttle_Set"). Will the new configuration tool address this or do I have a unique problem? --Don
Make sure that your controls aren't calibrated in FSUIPC. If you are using AXIS_THROTTLE... but still have them calibrated, they won't work.

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:29 pm
by don.polidori
Thanks, looks like that got it. I had to delete any calibration in the "separate throttles per engine" AND the "main flight controls".

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:40 am
by metzgergva
As we cannot use calibration, would the tool in MVASM also have max and min lever positions to adjust so that as hardware is never equal it would compensate?

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:07 pm
by JonathanBleeker
Yes. That is exactly what it is for.

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:09 am
by didier
Hello,

Just bought a KA350i (what a nice plane! Hope you'll propose it for MSFS2020 ;) )...
Have you any idea why, in FSUIPC5.INI, "{ TO SIM: AXIS_THROTTLE1_SET }-" is reset to "{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }" as soon as I run P3D?
What am I missing??

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[Profile.Milviz KA350i]
1=Milviz KA350i C-GRJZ
2=Milviz KA350i G-POWB
3=Milviz KA350i LN-KYV
4=Milviz KA350i N70EU

[Axes.Milviz KA350i]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=1X,328,D,9,0,0,0	-{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }-
1=1Y,392,D,10,0,0,0	-{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }-
2=1Z,256,D,17,0,0,0	-{ DIRECT: PropPitch1 }-
3=1R,256,D,14,0,0,0	-{ DIRECT: Mixture2 }-
4=1U,256,D,18,0,0,0	-{ DIRECT: PropPitch2 }-
5=1V,256,D,13,0,0,0	-{ DIRECT: Mixture1 }-
02/02/2020: I've just installed "MV_KA350i_v1.0.6_200131.exe / KA350 HF2 beta 1.0.6" and it solved the issue (and didn't bother Pete :lol: ).

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:00 pm
by JonathanBleeker
That you would need to take up with the developer of FSUIPC.

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:38 pm
by signmanbob
This is exactly what I have, yet it doesn't work at all. I have "Invert" checked on the MVAMs, but my throttles will smoothly bounce up and down.
I can get them to work perfectly, just in reverse from the way they need to go.

8=4Z,672,F,66420,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_THROTTLE1_SET }-
9=4R,256,F,66424,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_PROPELLER2_SET }-
10=4U,256,F,66423,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_THROTTLE2_SET }-
11=4V,256,F,66421,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_PROPELLER1_SET }-
12=4S,256,F,66422,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_MIXTURE1_SET }-
13=4T,256,F,66425,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_MIXTURE2_SET }-

Why does the MVAMs have Power Levers, then Power Levers 1 and Power Levers 2? Do I need to put any setting in the "Power Levers" if I'm using two throttles?

Re: FSUIPC settup for complex addons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:21 pm
by Slayer
signmanbob wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:38 pm
This is exactly what I have, yet it doesn't work at all. I have "Invert" checked on the MVAMs, but my throttles will smoothly bounce up and down.
I can get them to work perfectly, just in reverse from the way they need to go.

8=4Z,672,F,66420,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_THROTTLE1_SET }-
9=4R,256,F,66424,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_PROPELLER2_SET }-
10=4U,256,F,66423,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_THROTTLE2_SET }-
11=4V,256,F,66421,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_PROPELLER1_SET }-
12=4S,256,F,66422,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_MIXTURE1_SET }-
13=4T,256,F,66425,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_MIXTURE2_SET }-

Why does the MVAMs have Power Levers, then Power Levers 1 and Power Levers 2? Do I need to put any setting in the "Power Levers" if I'm using two throttles?
Power levers without the number is to control both power levers with one axis. Same as it is in P3D.