Unable to start

Wings of Gold
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Unable to start

Post by Wings of Gold » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:34 am

I just installed my Sabre on my new computer. Got a new installer (from my account) and turned off my antivirus. Got what appeared to be a normal installation. Tried to start the engine using the quick start steps in the manual. Hear the starter unit, but at step 4 (throttle does move out of the lock position) I do not get a start (no rpm or engine exhaust temp increase). I tried several times paying close attention to the manual. No light off. I uninstalled and did a complete new install. Same results - no start.

Advise/help please.

Bill

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Re: Unable to start

Post by JonathanBleeker » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:27 am

You enabled the ground power unit? Also you need to click the throttle twice to move it out of off to idle.

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Re: Unable to start

Post by Wings of Gold » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:20 pm

Hi Jonathan,

Yes. The power unit is running. I also click the base of the throttle twice (the throttle then moves) - however, no engine start (no rpm or exhaust temp increase).

Bill

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Re: Unable to start

Post by JonathanBleeker » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:46 pm

You move the battery switch back into the battery position after the start switch?

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Re: Unable to start

Post by Wings of Gold » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:49 am

Yes I did (part of step #3).

Bill

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Re: Unable to start

Post by JonathanBleeker » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:53 pm

Once the switch is back in the battery position, do you see RPM indications at least before you try to light off?

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Re: Unable to start

Post by Wings of Gold » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:25 pm

Hi Jonathan,

Yes, the RPM increases (small dial) to about 30%. However, when I double click the throttle housing, that dial decreases to zero again. I also see the battery come alive when I throw it's switch.

How do I uninstall - so I can do another (clean) install of v.170607?

regards,

Bill

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Re: Unable to start

Post by JonathanBleeker » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:11 pm

Run the installer and check the uninstall box.

One other question, if you press Shift+Z what is the fuel percentage? I have a sneaking suspicion this may be that odd quirk that sometimes occurs where the jet loads with 0 fuel and you need to play with the fuel slider in the loadout menu.

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Re: Unable to start

Post by Wings of Gold » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:44 pm

Fuel percentage is 52%.

Regards,

Bill

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Re: Unable to start

Post by JonathanBleeker » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:56 pm

Forgot about the engine master switch (just above the battery switch. Shows how long since I have last flown the Sabre). Is that on?

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Re: Unable to start

Post by Wings of Gold » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:25 pm

Yes. Step #2 (left click the Engine master switch) puts it in the upper position (on). It is still on in Step #4 (when you click the throttle grip two times.

Bill

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Re: Unable to start

Post by Wings of Gold » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:52 am

Here are my steps and the reactions:
• Installed using latest installer (v4.170607)
• Select F-86 in P3Dv4
o Aircraft appears. Hear the engine winding down
• Step #1: following the (“Just Tell me How to Start it Procedures”)
o Select Shift +2
 Table appears. “Misc” light is lit.
o Select “Ground Pwr”
 Both “Ground Pwr” and “Chocks” are selected
 Hear the Ground Power unit running
• Step #2:
o Left click the Engine Master Switch.
 Switch moves up
• Step #3:
o Right click Battery Starter switch
 Momentary switch movement
 RPM on small dial increases to 25 %
• Hear engine noise
o Left click the switch
 Moves to the “Battery” position (up)
• The upper yellow and lower yellow lights turn on
• Step #4:
o Left click the Throttle Grip twice:
 Throttle grip moves forward
 Engine starts winding down
Bill

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Re: Unable to start

Post by Wings of Gold » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:53 am

Here are my steps and the reactions:
• Installed using latest installer (v4.170607)
• Select F-86 in P3Dv4
o Aircraft appears. Hear the engine winding down
• Step #1: following the (“Just Tell me How to Start it Procedures”)
o Select Shift +2
 Table appears. “Misc” light is lit.
o Select “Ground Pwr”
 Both “Ground Pwr” and “Chocks” are selected
 Hear the Ground Power unit running
• Step #2:
o Left click the Engine Master Switch.
 Switch moves up
• Step #3:
o Right click Battery Starter switch
 Momentary switch movement
 RPM on small dial increases to 25 %
• Hear engine noise
o Left click the switch
 Moves to the “Battery” position (up)
• The upper yellow and lower yellow lights turn on
• Step #4:
o Left click the Throttle Grip twice:
 Throttle grip moves forward
 Engine starts winding down
Bill

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Re: Unable to start

Post by Wings of Gold » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:13 pm

Hi Milviz,

I can't describe my problem better than I have. Why can't I start? Help me please,

Bill

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Re: Unable to start

Post by JonathanBleeker » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:51 am

Apologies. Things got hectic here and I forgot your post. Next question is if you have any hardware controls tied to P3D fuel selector or fuel valve/ignition controls.


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