Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

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Eire1994
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Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by Eire1994 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:59 pm

I have just purchased the milviz and my autothrottle does not hold the speed, it will continue to increase speed until overspeed or it will decrease speed until it stalls. Anyone ever have this issue ?

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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by N4GIX » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:26 pm

Which autopilot are you using?

JonathanBleeker
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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by JonathanBleeker » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:56 pm

If it is the SP-177, please confirm the following:

Flight director on
Auto throttle armed and SPD mode engaged, not LVL CHG or EPR hold

Eire1994
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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by Eire1994 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:35 pm

Hi I can confirm it's the 177 version and yes I have flown Ngx for many years and I have fd on fms set lnav set and autopilot on with vertical speed selected. I don't understand why I am having this problem.

Krazycolin
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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by Krazycolin » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:12 am

This isn't the Ngx mate. It's much MUCH older and balky system.

Eire1994
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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by Eire1994 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:40 pm

Yes but surely the auto throttle holds the speed.

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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by JonathanBleeker » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:11 pm

You put on both flight directors? Just double checking.

Eire1994
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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by Eire1994 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:50 pm

my setup on departure is both FD's on Auto-throttle armed lnav engaged or hdg select engaged. once flaps retracted i then engage the auto-throttle and auto pilot. I use vertical speed for the climb and the auto-throttle tends to just bypass the selected speed and continue to increase speed. its more noticeable in cruise as it will continue to rise until i turn it off and back on again then it will decrease speed until it goes below the speed i have selected so i turn it on and off again and it will raise the speed again. it is slow enough but it means you cant leave it alone for too long or else it will be over speed or underspeed.
i use p3dv3

Eire1994
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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by Eire1994 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:05 pm

https://www.twitch.tv/eire1994/v/115166506

I just made a quick example of how i cant control the speed plus my startup/setup

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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by JonathanBleeker » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:34 pm

Ok I watched your video and the auto throttle is behaving as expected. You had your engines at absolute max power rather than using a derated power setting and as a result you overshot your speed mark considerably. When you engaged speed hold, the autothrottle moved your throttles back and the engines spooled down. You didn't allow it much time to actually recapture the speed though.

Eire1994
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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by Eire1994 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:48 am

Okay I appreciate the advice and I will play around until I get the hang of it.
On a separate note, is there a way of making the fms weights kg rather than lbs.

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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by jfwharton » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:07 am

I just purchased this aircraft yesterday and I am having the same problem with auto throttles not working. I have a Saitek X-52 controller. During climb out I engaged both flight directors and set the auto-throttle speed and the airspeed overshot. I reduced my Saitek throttle and tried again with the throttle about half way up (50%). Same issue. I also had the speed hold selected. After level off I tried again after turning off the auto throttle and manually adjusting to hold the speed. Re-engaged and it did not hold the speed. I tried again and when I lowered the speed setting from 250 to 200 I could hear the engines spool down. I watched as the airspeed dropped and continued to drop below 200 knots. At 170 knots I turned it off and manually adjusted my throttle. The same configuration, both flight directors on, speed dialed in set to 200 and the speed light lit with auto-throttle turned on.

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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by Krazycolin » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:25 am

Auto-throttle?

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Re: Milviz 737-200 auto-throttle problem

Post by jfwharton » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:12 am

Never mind. I tried again and this time everything is working. Don't know what went wrong the first time but second time is the charm.


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